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02/14/12 05:59 AM
Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? [re: guardian_angel_671]Report this article as Inappropriate to us !!!Login to Reply

"Also all the innocents who (like me) downloaded & used some of these --not realizing --that they were stolen. this opens them up to getting banned/punished for using the said stolen items. Thank heavens as far as I know I only used 1 & still had it saved as a daz scene--so I totally redid it with an item I went & purchased to make my render safe & reposted in same areas.  Many people,especially the newbies wouldn't think of the results of using "stolen" items. Is it right that he get away & be allowed to endanger others---I extremely think not. As for moral integrity? If he was worried about it--he wouldn't be reuploading same illegal items elsewhere to another safe well known freebie place like Rendo.  Sorry I had ta speak up for the innocent victims too."


The reason I believe he is getting meshes from Sketchup is that I too was suspicious at his output.  He had some detailed descriptions, so I Gooogled the descriptions, and there the models were, on Sketchup. 


Models posted on Sketchup have unlimited use and distribution terms, with no attribution requirement, which I posted earlier.  If someone uses a model obtained there, he has not "stolen" it, he is using it in accordance with the license terms.  If the mesh turns out to have been pirated, he, like guardian_angel_671 is a victim, having lost the work and time put to converting it, and being exposed to liability. 


If a poser model were imported into Sketchup and shared, it would be the same mesh (and perhaps the same textures), but would be "derigged", and have "all the cool features removed"


I'm certainly not defending Piracy, but as Bonaparte said, "Do not ascribe to malice what can be explained by incompetence".  Looking at download numbers, we who post on Forums are the rounding error as a percentage of Poser users.  Most users are amateur hobbyists and not attuned to the subtleties of copyright law.  Callling someone a thief or pirate is unlikely to garner a positive response, but explaining the situation kindly, in terms of thier own protection, would be far more effective and beneficial to the hobby as a whole.


I don't know Dalmatiner, but the reason I stepped into this discussion is due to a member here called WERTS.  WERTS made uncanny celebrity head morphs for DAZ figures.  However, I was astonished to download one and fiund the morph had been distributed as an obj; that is, it included DAZ's mesh.  I thought about warning WERTS that that he should be distributing it as a delta injection, but, since I had seen it on the DAZ forums, I presumed he had some dispensation.  Apparently I was mistaken, as these works, and WERTS, disappeared several months ago.  I now wish I'd sent that PM. Frown  A kindly word to the wise is likely to be recieved far more favorably than an accuation of criminal acts, and a warning heeded is beneficial to the community as a whole...




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*Whats Happened Dalmatiner? michaeltoonz   01/29/12 04:42 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? Spydraxis   12/10/12 10:27 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? *DELETED* Meshbox   03/05/13 11:58 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? hisstoryman   03/28/13 08:35 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? mafiagore2   04/01/13 04:40 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? Greybeard   04/29/13 08:04 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? Josea   05/01/13 10:23 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? Greybeard   05/14/13 10:45 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? 100minus1   02/20/15 08:39 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? duane_moody   03/29/15 12:36 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? McGyver   02/17/12 10:19 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? beekeeper   08/11/12 05:52 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? blazeredflame   05/18/12 12:11 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? WandW   02/10/12 04:35 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? michaeltoonz   02/10/12 04:19 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? WandW   02/11/12 08:35 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? michaeltoonz   02/13/12 06:52 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? michaeltoonz   02/13/12 06:59 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? guardian_angel_671   02/13/12 09:18 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? WandW   02/14/12 05:59 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? EnglishBob   02/15/12 04:09 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? launok   12/07/12 12:58 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? WandW   02/15/12 06:02 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? Meshbox   02/11/12 11:33 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? WandW   02/11/12 12:13 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? marcodd   02/11/12 07:16 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? Meshbox   02/05/12 01:35 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? BadFaerie   02/17/12 10:12 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? michaeltoonz   02/05/12 05:47 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? mclue   02/06/12 11:52 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? mafiagore2   02/06/12 07:46 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? mclue   02/06/12 10:18 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? mafiagore2   02/05/12 02:23 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? EnglishBob   02/12/12 03:37 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? hal001   02/14/12 05:58 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? Josea   02/13/12 08:44 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? Meshbox   02/08/12 12:51 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? mafiagore2   02/08/12 07:05 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? guardian_angel_671   02/09/12 09:27 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? MacMyers   02/12/12 04:48 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? WandW   02/13/12 01:07 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? BardCoennius   03/20/15 10:45 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? cridgit   02/09/12 03:09 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? guardian_angel_671   02/09/12 04:19 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? mafiagore2   02/10/12 03:39 AM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? mafiagore2   02/09/12 02:42 PM
.*Re: Whats Happened Dalmatiner? guardian_angel_671   02/09/12 02:56 PM
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